I had to order from a few other places while the site was down for maintenance and found the other places I ordered from to be really harsh and not as good of quality. I only wanna order through Blue Goba. However, I don’t know if it’s just me, but I’ve never been able to have a breakthrough experience using pens. And boy have I tried lol. I feel like I just hit a wall at some point and can’t progress further no matter how much I do. I might have to try to do it in its raw form.